I’ve told you before-I was backwards as a child. Actually, sometimes I still am.
The other day I remembered an old saying I heard often when I was little-but haven’t heard in years. When I was hiding behind Granny’s dress or hanging on one of Pap’s britchey legs, someone would say to me: “Whats your name? Puddin Tame ask me again and I’ll tell you the same.” I believe I was supposed to answer the reply to the question-but I guess the asker took one look at my big brown eyes and knew I wasn’t going to say anything.
Have you ever heard the old saying?
Tipper
Appalachia Through My Eyes – A series of photographs from my life in Southern Appalachia.
This isn’t correct. The nursery rhyme was common but it had dark origins (as others did at the time like ‘Ring Around The Rosy”). It’s actually a dish that was prepared from young dog innards. This used to be more common information. I can’t believe the original info is not as readily available as it used to be. We actually studied about it in school… and the actual way they prepared the dish was gruesome and brutal. I won’t go into detail here… but think along the lines of fois gras.
Barney Fife used it in an episode of The Andy Griffith Show. He was trying to act like a wise guy to fool a prisoner into thinking he was a criminal so the prisoner would cough up some information. The prisoner said “What’s your name?”, to which Barney replied “Puddin Tame, ask me again and I’ll tell you the same. “
Right but I think few outside of Appalachia knew the meaning. I grew up on the East Coast and had no idea. Still don’t.
The only person I ever heard say this was my father’s mother who was from Hurricane W Va but came to Ohio as a teen.
My grandfather is from Hinton WV, and is the only person I’ve ever heard say this also!
Really? Not from there but lived near that small town for a few years. Small world.
Stephen King just referenced this on Twitter, as a reference to Phil.Spector. My Mom, a true Appalachian, said this frequently. Thought you’d enjou.the doo wop version: Watch “The Alley Cats – Puddin’ N’ Tain (Audio)” on YouTube
https://youtu.be/nvrsfjgjSRc
I’ve heard Puddin Tane a lot. Another one, not one that evokes such pleasant thoughts, is “chicken squat” A child might pester a parent by constantly asking, “what,” whereupon the reply might be, ” Chicken squat, put it on the table and eat it hot!”
I haven’t heard this for years! My Granny and my Mom used to say this to all us kids. They pronounced it “Puddin’ Tang” but same saying. I miss my Granny! She passed away in 2005, seems like yesterday.
My grandfather did teach me to reply with “Puddin tame, ask me again I’ll tell you the same!” Thanks for bringing back a treasured childhood memory!
I remember asking my grandfather his name and he replied with this. This was around mid-late 60s in Somerset County PA- very rural and poor. I just repied to my grandson the same way just now and he is now repating it over and over.
My momma has Alzheimer’s and she has imaginary friends and one of them has same name as I do which is Carolyn and says we look a lot alike but I have dark brown hair and the other has black which my is a dark brown almost black so I’ve been told anyways when I’ve asked her what my name is she calls me Pudden Tang and when I was a child I remember at 4 -5 yrs old being called Pudden Tang I thought that was my real name cause I told my kindergarten class on the 1st. Day When asked to stand up and say my name and and something I liked I said my name is Puddin Tang and I like kittens I have 4 3 girls and 1 boy and they were all going to have babies soon a few weeks or so later they had their kittens 27 in all they sure did have some babies kittens but it’s been a long long very long time since I heard her call me this and one day out of the blue when she was looking for the other Carolyn I had to ask her who I was to her and what my name was she said I was her daughter and my name is Puddin Tang so I’ve come to love her call ing me by my new name cause it pretty confusing that she in her mind has 2 daughters with the same name I’m so Blessed to have her even if I’m Puddin Tang I’m her Pudden Tang and there’s only one of us May God Keep Us All Safe and Continue Reigning Us With His Blessings Be Kind To One Another and We With God Will Over Come The Bad Days and these Difficult Times our world is in pray for changes and for one another… have a great day
My dad taught us “puddin’ in tane.” Also, about “sun rises and sets on her hind end”: My grandma used to say, “If I could buy her for what she’s worth and sell her for what she THINKS she’s worth, I’d be a rich woman” about high-and-mighty people.
My dad pronounced it very similar. He said “Puddnintain.” Pood (like good)-nin-tain.
My mother, who died last year, was 98 years old. She used to recite this when I was little, I’m close to 77, and I believe it came from her mother. My grandmother’s family moved to Indiana from North Carolina.
What’s your name? Puddintane. Where do you live? down the lane. What do you do? teach school. How many students? 22. What do they sit on? little stools. ‘What do they look like? little fools!
I have a similar story, when I was a little girl, I would recite the question and answer upon prompting. I think I entertained the grownups with that rhyme.
It is from “The King of Boyville” by William Allen White, which is part of “The Court of Boyville” written in 1899. It is in response to an inquiry to the main character Piggy Pennington inquring as to his name and the answer got the smaller new boy soundly thrashed. Well worth the read – good 1899 slang.
Hadn’t heard this in years and really enjoyed everyone’s comments–Elithea, Ed, Miss Cindy and more. Always enjoy your posts and learn a lot, too!
We’ve said it all our lives–got it from Mother, of course. And…what Miss Cindy said…just copy and paste her second paragraph!
“I think “pudding time” is apt. It is probably old enough (1546, OED), it
was not narrowly limited in dialect AFAIK, and it makes a good-enough joke,
the sense presumably “No need for my name, just call out ‘pudding time’
[i.e., ‘time to eat’] and I’ll appear.” Cf. the 20th-century [and probably
earlier?] joke: “You can call me anything, as long as you don’t call me
late for dinner.” However, I would like the rhyme to be maintained. Was
“time” pronounced to rhyme or nearly rhyme with “name” in ca.-1500 England,
perhaps? Or could it be regional?…”
i’m thinking scotland…
“In fact “pudding tame” and variants (pudding/puddin’ [and] tame/tane/tang)
are used today with the sense “I won’t tell you my name” (e.g., often as a
‘handle’ or pen-name on the Internet, = “Anonymous”). The expression was
used in the “X-files” TV program in 1999.
The rhyme appeared in the US by 1895, when it was cited in “Dialect Notes”.
Already we’re out of the “poontang” milieu, I think; but in case there’s
any doubt, I find quoted from 1861 a version supposedly from ca. 1825
(apparently from Sussex?):
What’s yer naüm?
Pudding and taüm.
Back a little further (ca. 1590), I find reason to believe there was
approximately:
[What is your name?]
Pudding of Thame.
Now at least the expression has some surface sense, maybe. Thame is a
place-name — in particular a town in Oxfordshire, I believe. So “pudding
of Thame” might have been the name of a food, perhaps similar (or at least
analogous) to Oxford sausage, say. Still the expression is meaningless in
the context, and I wonder whether (1) it might even earlier have been
something else (“pudding at home”? “Pudding Tom”? “pudding time”?) which
maintained the rhyme in some early or regional pronunciation, and whether
(2) there is some recognizable double-entendre or other joke here in 16th-century (or earlier) English.”
What’s your name?
PuddinTane!
Where do you live?
In a sieve!
What’s your number?
Cucumber!
I learned it as a rhyme for jumping rope and clapping games and such. Really answering like that would have been very fresh…and probably not something I’d have tried a second time!
Hi Tipper, You were a beautiful child and a beautiful lady. I remembered the Pudding and tame poem when you mentioned it. I have not heard that in all my adult years..Have a wonderful week. I enjoy your blog so very much. I am copying your recipe for the hush puppies you had a few days ago..
Oh, Tipper, thank you so much for reviving a long forgotten childhood memory. My dad used to say it when I was little. Sure do wish I could remind him.
I have not heard the expression since I was a child (many years ago). You were a beautiful child. Also, I was so timid I would hide behind Mother’s coat.
Yes, I am familiar with the saying, but hadn’t heard it in years.
What a sweet picture! Love the little doll bed!
Yes, I heard that all my life, mostly from my mother. She also said the “John Brown’ one and the cucumber, etc. Sometimes, she still does! I never sensed that any adult expected to be answered “Puddin’ ‘n Tame”- or, ‘tane’, but probably would have been in stitches (oh-so-cute) if we had.I always thought it was an old playground rhyme.
It seems that some among us bloggers have varying definitions of ‘backwards’. Some use it for being shy. It doesn’t always mean ‘unenlightened’-or worse- as some take it. Again, a regional or familial definition.
How I love Jackson County- really wish I could go tonight!
Sweltering in FL.
My Dad often said these phrases. As most children do at some point, I would ask, “What’s your name?” He would reply, “Puddin Tane, Ask me again and I’ll tell ya the same.” Inevitably, I would ask again. “What’s your name?” and he would reply, “Johnny Brown, ask me again and I’ll knock ya down.” I always got such a kick out of it.
I was just telling my kids this story and found this website. I sure do miss my old man and its nice that others heard this too.
I heard the phrase many times growing. Sorry I will miss Don and Wendy’s presentation. I am a member of Jackson County Genealogical Society, but from FAR away. One of these days…
I grew up with it: Puddin ‘n tame! Never questioned where it came from or what it meant. It was just another funny thing my father played with us. He always thought he was so funny and would repeat the same corny things over and over–like someone going south on a truck load of p’taytas, or “who dat say who dat when I say who dat!?” or some other little ditty like the man from hoo-doo.
“Puddin’ Tane” was the way we said it in Maryland, always with a sassy tone. Speaking of words, I think Tipper’s meaning for “backward” is shy. For me, it means mentally challenged, which doesn’t fit Tipper at all.
Tipper
As a child I heard the puddin tame saying many times. Never really thought about it’s origin until now.Sense it is just a boring day I decided to try to figure out where it came from and did find a little info on it. It started as a short story called “The King of Boyville” from the book, The Real Issue By William Allen White in 1896.
“When a new boy, who didn’t belong to the school, came up at recess to play, Piggy shuffled over to him and asked him gruffly: “What’s your name?” “Puddin’ ‘n’ tame, ast me agin an’ I’ll tell you the same,” said the new boy, and then there was a fight”
As far as you being backward I would have to ask if the word was used as a adjective or adverb which could have a great affect on the meaning. As an adjective one of the definitions being reluctant or shy. I think this can be considered when you were talking about the stranger walking to meet you husband and you hesitated to approach. This could have also been that sense you had one of the twins with you that you were being protective. Sounds more to me that you are a good mother and just a little shy. Sorry about trying to write a book. 🙂
Whoa! What a picture! Wonder if Granny saved that little doll or maybe those little brown shoes? Can’t believe you were backward but, ain’t that they said about Albert Einstein?
Used to have a little friend when I was little that would always say that Pudin Tane thing.
Wish I could have had several little girls like the one in the Photo!
Oh my, haven’t thought of puddin tane in many years.
Puddin Tane for us. You were a sweet little girl!!
Tipper,
Nice picture and I agree totally
with Miss Cindy about our
Appalachian Champion. When my
mama’s mama came to visit, she’d
do the puddin’ tame thing with us
too, then bend over and gently
pinch my pudgy little cheeks. I
could get a closer look at her big
ball of hair wadded up on the back
of her head. At bedtime she’d let
it down and could rival Crystal
Gale’s long hair…Ken
My mother used the rhyme when my sister and I were toddlers.
oh yes! many times. Did you ever get asked “Railroad crossing – look out for cars. Can you spell that without any “R’s?” I’m not telling how old I was before I figured it out!
Good morning to all. I do remember that saying, probably only from the school yard as a teasing retort to another child. That kind of response to an adult would not have been tolerated by either of my parents, they were very strict about respecting your elders. When I was little people would ask what’s your name, if I was to shy to answer they would say “Oh I bet the cat’s got your tongue.” or ” What’s the matter has the cat got your tongue?”
TIPPER
I HAVE THAT AND I HAVE SAID
IT MANY TIMES AS A CHILD BUT I
HAVEN’T HEARD IT IN YEARS.
TIPPER I DON’T THINK THAT YOU
ARE BACKWARD YOU WRITE BEAUTIFUL
THINGS I HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE
SENDING THEM TO ME I ENJOY READING
THEM.
JOHNIE IN ARKANSAS
Hello All,My mother (almost 80) said that her mother always said that to them when they were little. I remember my grandmother and my momma saying it to us as well . Momma couldn’t remember any thing else that was said with the statement you gave. Thanks for the reminder I can use it to tickle my grandkids. Judith
Tipper–I remember that and other somewhat similar “sayings” or “ways.” For example, when someone in the family said “Hey” (not in the sense of hello but as a means of getting attention or admonition), a frequent response was: “You better save your hey (hay); you might marry a mule.
Jim Casada
I heard it often way back then, but it was puddin’ and (or a)tane. celia
Sounds familiar, but I think I am remembering it the way Laura Williams is..Pudding Tang.Wonder where it came from.
Heard it a lot as a kid, not so much lately. There was another, even less polite version: What’s your name? John Brown. Ask me again and I’ll knock you down.
Oh yes, heard it a lot growing up. Haven’t heard it in quite while though. Thanks again reviving old memories!
I have always said Puddin Tang, not Tame. I had an uncle that used to say, “has the cat got your tongue?”, when we wouldn’t answer a question.
That little Chitter-Chatter look alike in the picture is too cute to be backward!
Down in “wiregrass country” it was common. Also, the esteemed Barney Fife used it in an Andy Griffith episode!
Yes, my mother said it all the time. She said it emphatically, too, like she was imitating someone she had heard say it back in her past.
Ha ha, I recall that phrase, but I knew it as what’s your name…puddin tane (tane where I was from)…where do you live…down the lane…what’s your number…cucumber…
On and on, can’t remember the rest. Made me chuckle remembering:)
I wish I were in town and able to attend the presentation tonight, I would have loved to have been there!
Great photo! I have heard Puddin Tane for as long as I can remember. Just who was this Puddin anyway?
Found this on the web: It is a play on the name of an Irish high chief who was known as the Tain with his specific name in front of it. The Puddin” Tain was someone of not royal status but someone who had pretentions and was deridded with the name high King of the Puddings. later it became a Children’s rhyme of Scots-Irish origin.
What’s your name?
Puddin’ Tain.
Ask me again and I’ll tell you the same.
I heard that all the time as a kid and I still say it to irritate my kids!
That really sounds interesting. I don’t get over there, but it would be interesting to read about their selected topic. Yes, I do remember that saying. My dad would use it to makes us laugh.
Tipper, I can see you being a shy little girl. You are a quiet person, but never backward. I guess backward brings to mind Deliverance to me.
You have such a rich inner life. You are quiet but with a keen intellect that is ever vigilant and thinking. This is abundantly obvious from the things you write. There could not ever be a better champion for Appalachia!
Heard it and still say it ‘cept it was “Puddin-tang” what I heard and still say.
I have never heard that before … cute picture.
I have heard that saying all my life but it has been a while now since I have heard it also.
I’ve heard and used this expression as long as I can remember but used as a kind of smart aleck response when someone asks your name. Tipper I don’t think you were backward, I think you were waiting until you had something worth while to say unlike me and some of your other guests on “The Blind Pig”.
My name is also Puddin. Puddinhead Jones. Glad to meet you. Reckon we are related?
When he was younger my grandson, when asked what he had learned in school that day, would always reply “apparently not enough, they’re making me go back tomorrow.”
I remember it well. I came home from school saying it,and my mother said it wasn’t nice. I never heard an adult say it. By the length of your bangs, I think you are younger. You look like my daughter. You sure were cute!
I do remember that — and you were, and are still, adorable! *smiling warmly at you!*