Click on the bar below to hear Pap and my Uncle talking about the Walnut Cove and the Coleman Gap, better known today as the housing development Brasstown Overlook. You’ll also hear Pap use the phrase eh law.
Transcript of Recording
Pap: Turn to the left to start that. And if you look right straight to your right you’re looking right up the Walnut Cove. You member you member the rocky point there?
Uncle: It’s on this side?
Pap: On this side of the mountain yeah, yeah all this I’m talking about is on this side.
Uncle: Oh okay.
Pap: But in other words where the creek comes out of the Walnut Cove and runs into that other little old bitty drain ain’t nothing but a spring drain you know comes out there. Why the road if you was following the old road going up the mountain gonna go through the gap it starts to switchback there. You know.
Uncle: Yeah. Yeah.
Pap: Well you member when it started that switch back and went to the left there’s a mossy cleared like place on the right there kinda that’s where that house was that’s where Joe Coleman lived.
Uncle: Really. Did he really.
Pap: And out there in the curve when it bent back this way to head back towards the gap that old fence that come down there what was left of it I can remember when the barn part of the barn somebody burnt the barn that was there and that was Joe Coleman’s barn. And that’s where Joe Coleman lived, you know.
Uncle: Was that in that little flat there?
Pap: Yeah in that little flat.
Uncle: Oh ok. I know where you’re talking about. I remember that old fence on the side on the lower side of the road down through there.
Pap: Eh law.
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“Eh Law ~ An exclamation, at times in wonder, sometimes in resignation, and often with a tinge of sadness.” (Definition from Mountain Born written by Jean Boone Benfield)
The Dictionary of Smoky Mountain English has an entry for Eh Law, but my familiarity with the phrase is more like Jean Boone Benfield’s definition.
I most often hear the phrase used when there just ain’t nothing that can be done about an unfortunate situation and everybody in the conversation knows there just ain’t nothing that can be done. A sad resignation over something you just can’t understand, explain, or justify.
Tipper
I was under the impression that “Eh law” was a corruption of “C’est la vie” (“such is life”). The “vie” is simply dropped, and the first two words made amenable to Appalachia. I think this first better with the normal meaning that some other suggestions.
My mother, born in 1917 in flatlands North Carolina, used “eh law” but only when talking with her sisters and only in a humorous context and usually directed only to the youngest sister. I had the impression that “law” was a nickname for the youngest sister, named Loyce. Mother always put the stress on the “eh” rather than the “law.” Sister Loyce always smiled or laughed in response to “eh law!” “Eh law” is probably related to “Oh Lord!” Down in the flatlands many people back in the day, especially blacks, would pronounce “Lord” as “Lawd.” Dropping the “d” from “Lawd” gives us “Law” so it is easy to see how over time “Oh Lord” might have morphed into “Eh law.” You may ask why my mother would only use this expression with her sisters. Well, it sounded quaint when I first heard it, probably in the 1950s. Fear of ridicule was probably a factor, for her generation wanted nothing more than to get off the farm, move to town, and be thoroughly modern. My mother picked cotton as a girl and knew an old black woman who had been a slave as well as other African-Americans, so she had likely picked up that expression from them. Eastern North Carolina saw an influx of non-natives following World War II, mostly from up North. Mother had worked in Chicago for a year before she got married and was probably sensitive to the possibility of ridicule from Yankees or town dwellers if she used such an expression outside the family. Eh law! Life can be complicated…
My grandfather used to say this when he got upset at my grandmother. She’d be fussing about something he had done, or something someone else had done. He’d sit for a while not saying anything and just listening. Eventually he’d get feed up and as he went out the back door he’d yell “Eh law, woman!” Sometimes as he was walking away from the house he’d mumble under his breath “Law, law, law.” He had a shop where he made guitars and other instruments (he played Bluegrass), and he’d stay there for a while and then come back to see if she was still upset. If she was the whole thing would play out again. lol
This was nice to hear. He reminds me of the way my Pop talked. (Pop is what I called my granddaddy). Oh, how you must treasure this recording! Thank you for sharing.
My grandmother used to say “El they law”! All the time and this is the first time i’ve heard it mentioned on the internet! So glad I found this! She lived in Beattyville, KY – Lee County.
Thanks for the explanation of eh law. My husband just said that +which I had heard before). His parents are from Bryson City.
As a child in Hawkins County, Tennessee, I often heard the “Law’ exclamation enhanced as, “They law, Bob!”. Similar to the denial, “No siree, Bob!”. If anyone knows who this “Bob” guy was, I’d like to know.
Other idioms that may have been discussed in previous posts are “airy and n’airy” or as I also heard them simply “ar” and “nar”. For example, “Ain’t nairy a one of ’em been seen since”. These were used in various combinations of double and single negatives. I suspect these are corruptions of the archaic augmentatives “ere” and “ne’er”but don’t know.
Eh law! – the origins and evolution of language are fascinating!
Mitchell says Eh Law. I’ve always heard My Law! Dey Law! and more uncommonly- My lands! We weren’t allowed to say any of the above in my very straight-laced family. My Grandmaw said she would wash our mouths out-
You can read in Shakespeare an expletive just like this: it is “La”. The Oxford Dictionary of word origins addresses this. No doubt our various soundalikes were brought over from England in the 1600s and sounds have shifted from place to place. My folks in the Smokies used it very often, as an all purpose expression of interest or concern.
Tipper,
In my family in east tennessee one of the surnames is Law which traces all the way back to the creation of the smokies.
My great-grandmothers maiden name was Law so my relatives have always ss memory of her is LAW,LAW!
We think it’s funny
Carol Rosenbalm
Tipper,
One time, just before one of the girl’s concerts started, Pap came up to me and said “Ken, you keepin’ everything straight up in Topton?” I said, “I’m trying to but our Mayor up and died on us a few years ago, and we never replaced him. Did you ever know Buck Godfrey?” Pap said, “you know when I was a boy, it got so cold over where I live that folks stole the ties off the railroad to keep warm and it was several days before the railroad got it fixed.”
I hushed after that!…Ken
I’ve heard eh law, they law, law law, lordy lordy, lord a mercy, lord have mercy and by hokies. “By hokies” don’t fit in here but it makes me smile every time I think of it.
We had a neighbor who ended every sentence with it. His first name was Vance. All the men in the community who went to church called each other “Brother” before their given name. My dad was Brother Fred, my uncle was Brother Wayne, etc. to the whole Needmore area. That made Vance, “Brother Vance.”
All us kids in the area didn’t use the Brother part when speaking of the menfolk, except in the case of Vance. Not only did we add the Brother, we added his byword. So, he became “Brother Vance By Hokies.” Of course we never called him that to his face or in the presence of any grownups. Nor to his kids. That would have reaped you a beating to within an inch of your life.
Tipper
I agree with Ron about “they law” being an expression of astonishment. I have a friend that
will say “they law” if you tell her the price of gas just went up! ha
I was so tickled to read Bill Burnett’s description of the gentlemen saying, “Eye Doggie”!
We used to have a fellow that wanted us to call him as soon as we found any rare pieces of a pattern called “Autumn Leaf” distributed by the Jewel Tea Company. “Don’t sell it before I get there,” he would exclaim. Then when he saw it, his heart pounding, eyes sparkling in wanton anticipation….I would tell him the price, he would always say, “Eye doggie” as he was pulling out his billfold to give me the money. Even though he knew I always gave him the best price I could and make a bit of profit myself for finding it for him.
Bill, that sure brought back memories of a great friend and customer (with the largest collection of Autumn leaf in this part of East Tennessee….
Thanks Tipper
and Bill for your memory and comment!
i was going to add “they Laaaaw…” (drawing out that law)- so was glad to see that Ron did. Haven’t heard it in a coon’s age! Another one is “Law, you don’t mean it!” as a response to something incredible.
my exact recollection of how it was used here in the Hills of Northwest, Alabama.
I am like Sheryl Paul. I suspect this expression arose as an an alternative to saying ‘ O Lord’ because some old timers thought saying that was just plain wrong. My Grandma didn’t like to hear my brother and I say ‘darn’ because to her it was cussing. The sad truth probably is that if we were to be transported back to 1900 or so the old timey folks would be shocked at some of the things we say. And we would be shocked that they reacted that way.
I have not heard ‘ Ah law’ in awhile but am very familiar with it. Depending on the situation, it can convey about any emotion. But I agree with you that it tends to be most commonly used to mean a compound of regret, sadness and resignation. It has taken me over half a century to realize that every generation arrives at that place.
Well… Being a recovering Yankee, I have heard the same, only different, and it’s my thought that “Lawsy Mercy” in Appalachia is the same as the Northern folks’ “Lord, have mercy”, of which I am very well acquainted. Likewise, “Eh law” = “Oh (or Ah) Lord”.
But we all know than Yankees talk funny…
I’ve heard, “Lordy Mercy” and, “Lord ‘a mercy”, meaning Lord have mercy. This is probably an offshoot of this expression and kind of self explanatory.
I heard it as “They Law.” “Awesome” Kids have changed everthing, I Rekon!
I have never thought a lot about this expression, as it was such a common one. My daughter seems to say it more, but it is more like, “Oh law.” She surely learned from my Dad who was a walking Appalachian dictionary. It is used in circumstances that are bewildering. Thanks, Tipper, I love learning from your blog
We use “My law!” Or “Lawsy Mercy.” It is almost a mild oath or a phrase used to show wonderment, disappointment,or used as you mentioned. I always took it to mean ” My Lord.”
Through the years the usage may have evolved a bit.
My Mom used to say Eh-Law often so did most of her family and they were from Virginia.
Pam
scrap-n-sewgranny.blogspot.com
Have heard the expression. Always thought it was yea lawd (lord) , similar to lawd,lawd.
E#h Law, Oh Lord same sentiment. I have heard that Law, Lawsy are both idiums used to keep from saying the :ord’s name in vain.
I have heard a number of phases using “Law” before and I always thought that it meant “Lord”… eh Law would be “aw/oh Lord” and “laws a mercy” “Lord a mercy.” What do you think?
Thanks Tipper for this post.
I hope we can hear more of Pap and Granny along the way…I believe you had some interviews taped about some Appalachian traditions, etc. that we might enjoy listening to his families way of doing things, back in the day.
Tipper,
Eh law, how many times I have heard that term in my family and have used it myownself with out even thinking…My Mother especially would express the term when something occurred and there wasn’t anything she could do about it. She might say, “Eh law,” you’d a thought they’d a known better”!
I think I use the term in exasperation…as “eh law,” I don’t know how I’m going to get something done, or over something, maybe sadness if you will….
I hear voices of my grandparents as well, using this expression at the shocking news of the world.
I have heard them say, “Eh law, this old world is going to hell in a hand basket!”
As a youngster, I wasn’t sure what they meant! All I knew was, I didn’t think the world would fit in Grannies egg basket, that was a’hangin’ on the nail on the back porch! And who in the blazes would carry it there if it did fit, eh law!
I grew up hearing “eh law”as an expression of sadness or pity for someone or some situation. It was also common to hear the expression of “they law” as a response to hearing something unbelievable or astounding. That is a common expression my oldest sister still uses. I love to hear both of them used.
My favorite way to express surprise is a tad different than Pap says it, but means the same thing. Uh laa!
I’ve heard and used Eh Law pert near all my life, many Appalachain “Old Timers” had their expressions and by words they used and many were known by them, one example I’ll always remember was a gentleman we were related to by marriage who was always cattle trading with my Dad and my Maternal Grandfather, when he would be trying to get someone to cut their price he would shake his head and exclaim “Eye Doggie”, that’s a bit high. I can remember this from the time I was knee high to a grasshopper since I loved to travel with my Grandfather on his cattle tradin excursions and our Wednesday visits to the Livestock Auction in Franklin when I wasn’t in school. These are great memories. These trips were as much social events to these characters as they were about making money.
The Appalachian conversation and accent aren’t too much different from how the older rural folks often sound here in Missouri. Of course, most of the Missouri ancestors came out of Appalachia to settle here. I bet the “eh law” and the “lawsy me” I am familiar with have the same origination because they are used in similar ways.
Tip, I think I’ve heard that a few times but not a lot. I certainly understand the sentiment. I think we need to revive the expression, there’s just so many situations in the world now a days when there is just nothing that can be done, eh law!
Tipper–To me the use of “eh law” is reminiscent of “well, bless her (or his) heart” being used to describe some woman or man who is hopelessly incompetent, plain-out stupid, imbued with all the negative attributes we ascribe to flatlanders, or just chronically irritating. In other words, the phrase carries a condemnatory tone along with one of sad resignation.
Jim Casada
Gary-thank you for the comment! Yes I believe Eh Law is related to lawsy mercy : )
Is it somehow related to another exclamation I’ve heard which is “laws a mercy” or something like that’s?