Today’s grammar lesson is about location-location-location. In Appalachia there are a variety of words used to describe a certain location-words like yonder, yon, somewheres, thataway, and thisaway.
Examples:
*I’m not sure where Raymond lives but it’s over in Clay County somewheres.
*I heard there was a bad storm over yonder in Fannin County this morning.
*If you’re going to Young Harris through Warne you’ll have to change your plans. You can’t go thataway now that they’re working on that bridge. Unless you cut through Pine Log and come out yon side of the bridge.
*I saw some old truck turn down thisaway. I don’t know who it was or what they were doing. But it seemed mighty fishy to me.
I’m guilty of using all the words to describe locations. How about you? Got any to add to the list?
Tipper
I always pity those poor, ignorant souls who insist on being so literal that they miss out on the beauty of creative language. The beauty of Appalachian culture is that we can drop consonants or add more. as in responding to someone who might ask whether we can do something by saying, “Shore, I caan.”
I use overneath as the opposite of underneath. I have no idea for sure where I got thar word.
I also use “this here” as in “This here chair needs taken back to the kitchen.”
My favorite though is what every Appalachian woman says to friends or family thst drop by: “Jeet yet?”
Oh yes, I use them all. And the people here pick on me because of my hillbilly slang. Oh well….I gotta be me!
Love those “Rock of Ages” girls above, that’s quite a pair!!
I recognize the level but not the other. However I have a feeling if you told me I’d say” oh , I knew that”
I’ve been summers, over yonder,yon, thataway, a fur piece,and raht char. I like raht char best!!
Tipper–I’ve been out in Oklahoma chasing turkeys (successfully) for the past week, so I’m just now catching up. B. Ruth mentioned the song, “Down Yonder.” It was a favorite square dance tune when I was a boy, and the opening lyrics suggest it is distinctly a song of the South–“Down yonder, someone beckons to me, Down yonder, next to Robert E. Lee.”
As for yonder, folks in Bryson City and Swain County often rendered it as “yander” rather than “yonder.” According to Dad, when I was a small boy I told some visitor something or the other was “over yander on Hospital Hill” and Mom like to have fainted in embarrassment.
Jim Casada
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Oh Tipper, I use them all and most of those in the comments. I read a review of hard-to-locate little diner and the writer said something like it: “It’s up behind the beyond.”
Off topic here but I am so so saddened to read of the passing of Hazel Dickens….a profound loss.
Suzann, I would not let the Webster people nor any of the scholarly types be the last word on just what is a real word.
Tipper,
Love reading everyone’s examples
of the Appalachian Word Games.
Its a lot of fun. I bet I can
guess what the level is for, Matt
shore came in handy didn’t he?
Can’t wait to see it…Ken
My folks always said “up the road a piece” I think I still say it!!
I’m laughing!! My harding working Mitchell says “yan”-sometimes he has me help him do a job(usually dangerous) & he will tell me to move something “yan way”. If someone will tell me where yan is, it sure would improve Mitchell’s temper & my nerves! PS-Hello, Rod-my people are from across the way on Lookout Mtn & Sand Mtn,too. We used to carry my grandmaw to church on Sunday mornings.
I heard my Dad and his family say “raht char” for “right there.” And I remember my high school math teacher in Texas talking about arrows pointing “thisaway” and “thataway.”
Did you forget “fer piece”? Meaning a long way away?
I still use that and one guy from up north thought I was talking about a fur stole or something furry.
God bless.
RB
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You know yonder has to be alright because we use it in song all of the time, i.e. When the role is called up yonder I’ll be there.
My Dad used to say “It’s a hoop and a holler and a couple of wagon greasings from here”
How about “a fur piece” as in “she lives a fur piece down the road.”
And if you’re not from here you’re from “off.”
I would have more likely heard or used yonder than yon. Yon would have been heard in a Shakespeare play.
I also heard “somewheres” pronounced like “summers” when I was growing up.
I have a friend who says “in ere”
I thing the big pan is “in ere”. said while pointing to a cabinet.
We use all of these.
Much love — Teresa
Dolores-yes that is a level! The Deer Hunter has been busy building something for us-I’ll show it to you soon : )
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Just heard ’round chere’ as in “ain’t nodody round chere knows where that is”.
Debora-down the road a ways is a good one! I use that one too : )
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When indicating distance from here to there, I often say “it’s a ways down the road.” “A ways” can mean anything from a block to 5 miles. It drives my friends crazy when I do that.
There’s a variant to Jo’s “right down from” that I use a lot to encourage Susan when we’re making a pretty stiff climb up a mountain when out on a hike – something like this:
“Almost there – we’re going to top out right on up there around that next bend or two.”
Susan may tell you that my “bend or two” sometimes turn out to be three or four or eight….
But one thing IS always true – we’ve got to keep a-climbing until we reach that mountain top:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJG9WzQcw7k&playnext=1&list=PLD609474F386F4721
Hey Tipper,
Used and heard all of these…Yonder or… “Down Yonder” being a favorite old piano tune! ha…Also used and heard used “there about” or “there abouts.” Go to the next exit and “there abouts” will be a marker! Then follow the markers down yonder to that big tower!
Thanks Tipper,
My mother was from Sand Mountain in N.E. Alabama where they had a few peculiar ways of speaking. For instance instead of saying you were going to take someone to church they would say they were going to carry them to church or to town or wherever. And instead of calling soft drinks pop or soda they would just call them drinks, which in most places would mean an alcoholic beverage of some kind. Of course in that strict Southern Baptist community alcohol was a definite no-no so that was understood.
I can’t add to the list, but one of the pictures looks like you were testing for levelness of something. Is that a level?
yonder and thataway are common for me to use, yonder i use a lot. someone told me my accent has come back, i told them it is from your blog and watching Justified, which is a show set in Harland County KY. i am regressing to my child hood and happy about it
Hither and yon, nearabouts, hereabouts,yonder, and “som’eres” are location words familiar here in the Missouri hills.
Tipper, I really enjoy your grammar lessons and ‘studying on’ similarities in the Appalachian and Ozark speech. Thanks for yet another interesting and edifying (that word is still used here) blog.
I have used all but yon, its yonder for me. I know when I first made friends with some folks from up north, that was the biggest thing, they thought it so weird that I used the word yonder and they wanted to know just where this “yonder” was in location.
I remember years ago my Papa (granddaddy) saying, “Hope me clum that tree yonder.” (help me climb that tree over there.) haha.. I remember thinking how backward and old timey that was and that I had to learn to talk right. Sadly, that’s what we all do, and that is why we are losing this wonderful way of speaking, losing the way our ancestors communicated. Of course, that there is my opinion, maybe to most people, it IS backward sounding and old timey, I just think it sounds beautiful now.
Use em all except yon. Don’t forget directions for finding items or things, such as “Up and under,”Down and under, “Up and over,” and “Over and around” to name a few combinations.
Example: That derened cat is up and under the stove again.
I use all except yon. Enjoyed reading others comments as I also use some of their words too. Always love reading your post.
Wow, it seems that I use all but yon, and I have heard it used. We say just below and just above too, I have heard and used most of the ones from the comments too.
Sheryl
Can’t add to them but admit I use all those words. Loved reading the comments too.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that as adverbs yonder andr yon derived from Middle English yonder, yender, equivalent to yond + -er as in hither, thither. For example: “Whose house is that yonder?” As for yon, I think it derives from the old English geon..like “scatterd here and yon?”
Jo-right down from is a good one!
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John-thank you for the great comment! I knew I was leaving out some location words. We use nearabout too. And the summers pronunciation-guilty of that too : )
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I have used and still sue them all and seems I never get lost LOL. I can be over yonder and get back thisaway with no problem.
I just learned last year that “skift” wasn’t a real word. I grew up hearing, “We got a skift of snow last night.” đŸ™‚
Good morning, Tipper.
I still use hither and nearbout a lot. Both mean a location close to me.
Hither is used in directing movement, as in, “Come hither.” (Almost the same as “Come here,” but not as specific. Maybe closer to “come this way.”)
Nearbout means “in this general area” as opposed to “over yonder.”
I also thought I’d mention that “somewheres” is usually pronounced the same as “summers” by the folks I know.
Love your grammar lessons!
JD
Also “right down from”—Sister Brown lives right down from the twist in the road.
Somewheres is often replaced by anywheres.
We are justabout there….